How to capitalize on the Berlin meeting and get more clarity in the process?
Hi there, [I apologize for the English here, but this is the only way for me to meaningfully participate] I'm glad we have a name with which we can communicate! As you may know we've had a great meeting in Berlin on the 18/07 (the pad is here but still incomplete, Josef still has to insert his notes: http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_fringe_event) We've discussed a lot and received great input from a very diverse and skilled audience. On the 18.07, we outlined a list of pressing issues (see pad above). *The first issue is to get clarity on the scope of the 14MMM process that is to deliver (among other) the "Transformap.coop" so we can further identify specific tasks and the working groups that are going to implement them. It would be great to have a comprehensive working project description by the Leipzig conference. * As it seems we are done for now with the name choice, I would propose that we establish a temporary working group in charge of identifying all the components of the 14MMM process from community engagement to tech apsects or taxonomy etc. I strongly suggest that we do this from the start in English. This is one of the conclusion I draw from our Berlin meeting(s): in order to be inclusive of new stakeholders who may bring an important contribution, we need to slowly switch to English for some key tasks. At the end of the day, the project is in its essence an international one. How can we write up such a process description? Pads? Wiki? I start a structure on a pad: *http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure <http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure>* We may then add a pad for each and then put that into a wiki or any better, easy to use tool. What do you think? I hope we can build on the great momentum we're having now! Liebe Grüsse, Adrien -- Adrien Labaeye +49 176 3810 8605 Skype ID: adrien.labaeye Twitter: @alabaeye LinkedIn: Adrien Labaeye http:// <http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/>transition-lab.org c/o Thinkfarm Berlin Oranienstraße 183 10999 Berlin (3. Hof, Aufgang C, 3. OG) http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Adrien, dear all, thanks for the srart. what we attempt to do is writing a project plan - correct? What is your opinion on working in trello - I'm not sure about this one. A number of thoughts 1) I would suggest to make the background and goals one general section - not one for each main item - too much is shared. 2) I would avoid too many documents - if we have a nice structure within one document, we should be able to keep the overview 3) what exactly is the relation between goal/task/method - I would drop one of the three - e.g. only talk about goal and task description (which includes the method) 4) We should also think about milestones and products for each group - and try to identify interdependencies 5) I agree that English would be good. Greetings Dominik Am 23.07.2014 um 19:58 schrieb Adrien Labaeye:
Hi there,
[I apologize for the English here, but this is the only way for me to meaningfully participate]
I'm glad we have a name with which we can communicate! As you may know we've had a great meeting in Berlin on the 18/07 (the pad is here but still incomplete, Josef still has to insert his notes: http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_fringe_event) We've discussed a lot and received great input from a very diverse and skilled audience.
On the 18.07, we outlined a list of pressing issues (see pad above). *The first issue is to get clarity on the scope of the 14MMM process that is to deliver (among other) the "Transformap.coop" so we can further identify specific tasks and the working groups that are going to implement them. It would be great to have a comprehensive working project description by the Leipzig conference. *
As it seems we are done for now with the name choice, I would propose that we establish a temporary working group in charge of identifying all the components of the 14MMM process from community engagement to tech apsects or taxonomy etc. I strongly suggest that we do this from the start in English. This is one of the conclusion I draw from our Berlin meeting(s): in order to be inclusive of new stakeholders who may bring an important contribution, we need to slowly switch to English for some key tasks. At the end of the day, the project is in its essence an international one.
How can we write up such a process description? Pads? Wiki? I start a structure on a pad: _http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure_ We may then add a pad for each and then put that into a wiki or any better, easy to use tool.
What do you think? I hope we can build on the great momentum we're having now!
Liebe Grüsse,
Adrien -- Adrien Labaeye
+49 176 3810 8605 <tel:%2B49%20176%203810%208605> Skype ID: adrien.labaeye Twitter: @alabaeye LinkedIn: Adrien Labaeye
http:// <http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/>transition-lab.org <http://transition-lab.org>
c/o Thinkfarm Berlin Oranienstraße 183 10999 Berlin (3. Hof, Aufgang C, 3. OG) http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/
- -- Dr. Dominik Reusser Flagship speaker: Sustainable Transition Pathways Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research Research Domain 2: Climate Impacts & Vulnerabilities Reserach Area III: Climate Change and Development Telephone +49 331 288 26 46 Fax +49 331 288 20709 P.O.Box 60 12 03, 14412 Potsdam, Germany Visiting adress: Pappelallee 20, 14469 Potsdam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT0MEnAAoJEJuy/IqfuF0NutEH/35Q/uik7l91fOfXsYt3bC6D Yh5muzG0SIV3OwXbOGFtP45OgVye9paPhTMNEylyxeCVHxiXaC04mVcG0RWLJcyf jdgaPWkHyGa70ZtB/M2fSIIbwKQgykcQvusYBy1PgBcf+u8q2T7U7Cev9P0BAFnh h9GlHIdDPbxBhF+aB4w5gsBFdcpcoMg7oCkvhFTtrgEeweBl6fD8tc9E6lnm+xnB 1+RP7a+GQtby+eT4DydYUzluixmHJIfllFEkY7kUBHMFD6gNWzyaWFmHbuSsztVj AF8v09+Yn92Xg158Z2e0UvviuBzYDyHQOnAhtI9IBpuiQDvMR3I8v42HhxygIHM= =yHTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Dear Dominik, Thanks for your thoughts! mpt to do is writing a project plan - correct? Yes! What is your opinion on working in trello - I'm not sure about this one.
Well I don't see us writing stuff in Trello. Would be good to keep on overview of who is doing what if enough of us are showing interest in contributing to writing up our project/process plan... A number of thoughts
1) I would suggest to make the background and goals one general section - not one for each main item - too much is shared.
OK 2) I would avoid too many documents - if we have a nice structure
within one document, we should be able to keep the overview
Given that we already have 12 items, I think working in a pad with so many items turn messy. but we can start in the pad and adapt as per our needs. 3) what exactly is the relation between goal/task/method - I would
drop one of the three - e.g. only talk about goal and task description (which includes the method)
OK, that was just quick proposal
4) We should also think about milestones and products for each group - and try to identify interdependencies
Yes, that should be something to do as well.
5) I agree that English would be good.
:) I hope we can get this going! I have started to write user scenarios trying as a way to anticipate some questions and also making the project concrete in various situations: it may be particularly helpful while presenting the project to various audiences. *I made a mistake in the previous link it seems, here it is: http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure <http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure>* Herzliche Grüsse zum alles aus Frankreich! Adrien
Am 23.07.2014 um 19:58 schrieb Adrien Labaeye:
Hi there,
[I apologize for the English here, but this is the only way for me to meaningfully participate]
I'm glad we have a name with which we can communicate! As you may know we've had a great meeting in Berlin on the 18/07 (the pad is here but still incomplete, Josef still has to insert his notes: http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_fringe_event) We've discussed a lot and received great input from a very diverse and skilled audience.
On the 18.07, we outlined a list of pressing issues (see pad above). *The first issue is to get clarity on the scope of the 14MMM process that is to deliver (among other) the "Transformap.coop" so we can further identify specific tasks and the working groups that are going to implement them. It would be great to have a comprehensive working project description by the Leipzig conference. *
As it seems we are done for now with the name choice, I would propose that we establish a temporary working group in charge of identifying all the components of the 14MMM process from community engagement to tech apsects or taxonomy etc. I strongly suggest that we do this from the start in English. This is one of the conclusion I draw from our Berlin meeting(s): in order to be inclusive of new stakeholders who may bring an important contribution, we need to slowly switch to English for some key tasks. At the end of the day, the project is in its essence an international one.
How can we write up such a process description? Pads? Wiki? I start a structure on a pad: _http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure_ We may then add a pad for each and then put that into a wiki or any better, easy to use tool.
What do you think? I hope we can build on the great momentum we're having now!
Liebe Grüsse,
Adrien -- Adrien Labaeye
+49 176 3810 8605 <tel:%2B49%20176%203810%208605> Skype ID: adrien.labaeye Twitter: @alabaeye LinkedIn: Adrien Labaeye
http:// <http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/>transition-lab.org <http://transition-lab.org>
c/o Thinkfarm Berlin Oranienstraße 183 10999 Berlin (3. Hof, Aufgang C, 3. OG) http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/
- -- Dr. Dominik Reusser
Flagship speaker: Sustainable Transition Pathways
Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research Research Domain 2: Climate Impacts & Vulnerabilities Reserach Area III: Climate Change and Development
Telephone +49 331 288 26 46 Fax +49 331 288 20709
P.O.Box 60 12 03, 14412 Potsdam, Germany Visiting adress: Pappelallee 20, 14469 Potsdam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1
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-- Adrien Labaeye +49 176 3810 8605 Skype ID: adrien.labaeye Twitter: @alabaeye LinkedIn: Adrien Labaeye http:// <http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/>transition-lab.org c/o Thinkfarm Berlin Oranienstraße 183 10999 Berlin (3. Hof, Aufgang C, 3. OG) http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/
Dear Adrien,
[I apologize for the English here, but this is the only way for me to meaningfully participate]
you're welcome! And congratulation for the successful event in Berlin -> Let us know, once the pad is complete. (the
pad is here but still incomplete, Josef still has to insert his notes: http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_fringe_event)
I think, that the extra-meeting in Leipzig is a starting point to capitalize on the Berlin meeting and get more clarity on the process. Remember; here is the link to figure out a date: http://ting.allmende.io/t/transformap-orgatreffen-in-leipzig/86
It would be great to have a comprehensive working project description by the Leipzig conference. *
Whoever has the energy and time to engage in this process, go for it. I am more than overwhelmed. :-( And thanks for starting. Today I talked to a Foundation committed to social movements and alternative economies France; invited him to our workshop (also the workshop needs to be in English) and told him that he needs to meet some of the mappers in Leipzig (Michael/ Josef > he is staying at the same place we stay, so we could have a breakfast conversation)
As it seems we are done for now with the name choice, I would propose that we establish a temporary working group in charge of identifying all the components of the 14MMM process from community engagement to tech apsects or taxonomy etc.
Taxonomy_Group is already established and working. Once we finish the descriptions for each tag (that is - each key and value) - we'll publish it on this list. Ok?
I strongly suggest that we do this from the start in English. This is one of the conclusion I draw from our Berlin meeting(s): in order to be inclusive of new stakeholders who may bring an important contribution, we need to slowly switch to English for some key tasks. At the end of the day, the project is in its essence an international one.
I strongly agree with you! Hope everybody feels confortable with -> the emphasis is on "slowly"! And thanks again for all your energy and starting the "project" description -> which obviously will lead us to the very question: WHO is transformap? http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure_ All the best Silke
Dear Silke, Thanks for your detailed and positive feedback. I think, that the extra-meeting in Leipzig is a starting point to
capitalize on the Berlin meeting and get more clarity on the process.
For me Leipzig should be a moment where we can agree on a working project description, tasks with their working group, consent in decision-making. Therefore, I see the capitalization process of the Berlin meeting happening online before Berlin and concretizing in Leipzig to move to the next step. Taxonomy_Group is already established and working. Once we finish the
descriptions for each tag (that is - each key and value) - we'll publish it on this list. Ok?
Yes this is fine for the taxonomy group. I was saying that a working group to write the project description would be great: anyone who is willing to provide input is welcome! I strongly agree with you! Hope everybody feels confortable with -> the
emphasis is on "slowly"! And thanks again for all your energy and starting the "project" description -> which obviously will lead us to the very question: WHO is transformap?
Agree!
http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure <http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure_>
Cheers! -- Adrien Labaeye +49 176 3810 8605 Skype ID: adrien.labaeye Twitter: @alabaeye LinkedIn: Adrien Labaeye http:// <http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/>transition-lab.org c/o Thinkfarm Berlin Oranienstraße 183 10999 Berlin (3. Hof, Aufgang C, 3. OG) http://berlin.thinkfarm.de/
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Silke Helfrich